Carl Cameron Supports Questioning 9/11

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Nate Clark
We Are Change Minnesota
September 29th, 2009

Fox News Channel’s chief political correspondent Carl Cameron shared his thoughts on a variety of issues including the attacks of 9/11/2001 with We Are Change Minnesota on September 14th, 2009 in the U.S. Senate office building. Citing warnings by numerous foreign intelligence agencies, pre-9/11 warnings from Arizona FBI agent Kenneth Williams and stating quite plainly that, “It’s really hard to make the case that the buildings just imploded without some sort of an accelerant,” Cameron said we’re, “right to bang the drum because we don’t know,” what really transpired on 9/11 and that, “The unanswered questions are reasons to be skeptical.

Carl Cameron speaks with We Are Change Minnesota in the Senate office building, September 14th, 2009.

Sharing thoughts on how his reporting on the Israeli art student spy ring and executive assassination squads (subsequently revealed by Sy Hersh) have gone nowhere, he explained, “There are bad guys in the government. Black Ops and stuff does happen.“ He went on to share some insight into the inner workings of the news industry. Despite repeated acknowledgment of the unanswered questions concerning the events of September 11th, 2001, he declined to go on the record in support of a new investigation of 9/11 with the excuse that, “every single thing I say has to go though media relations”—referring to media relations as a, “meat grinder.” An astute observer might wonder if media relations was involved or if he personally felt it appropriate as debate moderator to outright insult Ron Paul’s electability—asking, “Do you have any, sir?“ during the 2008 Republican presidential debates.

Cameron, a notorious John “Skull and Bones“ Kerry basher, seemed to revel in sharing an account of Nancy Pelosi calling Kerry a “liar” for having supported the trumped up claims that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Considering how Cameron was also the source of the allegation that Sarah Palin thought that Africa is a country rather than a continent, it seems that character assassination may be the name of the game.

Ironically, the conversation concluded with a reference to his encounter with We Are Change New York last year when he listened to their concerns at length but offered little to none of his own thoughts on the matter. He did, however, tip off the group to the nearby Phil Gramm. “Come on guys, that’s Phil Gramm… why aren’t you busting his ass?” He offered the following advice on confrontation:

Yeah, and I mean seriously, simply you guys help your own cause, and I’m not saying you need to be rude to the people who are on your team, but if they tamp it down a little bit, I mean… I got jumped in downtown New York by a bunch of 9/11 truthers and I talked with them for an hour and it’s still out there on the web and the thing is if we’d had a quiet conversation, they might’ve actually gotten something out of me that would’ve been better than me just telling them, “I’m not going to talk to you.”

Let’s hope more workers in the news industry do what they can to help expose the unanswered questions about 9/11—if even to tip off the real reporters to opportunities to report on the “real questions.”


[Emphasis added]

Cameron: The thing is, you guys get painted as conspiracy nuts because some of the people don’t actually spend the time to read the facts, and you can give a number of facts to realize that it’s really hard to make the case that the buildings just imploded without some sort of an accelerant. So, in the emphasis of [inaudible] the accellerant, it’s a culprit. The unanswered questions are reasons to be skeptical.

What the office holders can’t do lead to the conclusions… because they’re office holders. I mean there’s politics [inaudible] and so raising… You guys shouldn’t get painted as nutjobs because you’re raising questions. But some of the guys who are on 9/11 truth squads and stuff like that, they’ll say shit that’s so far out there that it undermines the questions.

Anthony: We just had one guy out… We were just up there in New York and we had one of the guys—one of those same guys—comes in and disrupted William Rodriguez, you’ve heard of him right?

Cameron: Yeah.

Anthony: …Just comes in and totally interrupts the speech…

Adam: …goes on about aliens and reptiles and stuff—makes us all look like we’re out of our minds, you know?

Cameron: The guys that I got my four part Israelis series on are serious, non-partisan government people, you know? They went out and whacked people on the other side of the presidents, Republican and Democrat, they do their job and then..

Anthony: Whacked?

Cameron: Yeah. They do shit. There are bad guys in the government. Black Ops and stuff does happen. I mean, you know, Jack Bauer is a fuckin’ movie but it… Twenty Four is a TV show but it’s… but there are, it’s based in some stuff that’s not just imagination and it has to be that way. I mean, it just has to be. So, it was just recently revealed that Bush had authorized an executive order that essentially would’ve taken Brown and Root guys and, the Black-uh, the Blackwell paid contractors overseas and turned them into hit men to go after Bin Laden.

Anthony: Do you mean Blackwater?

Cameron: Blackwater… Now here’s the thing. I reported that at the same time I reported the 9/11 stuff—that the president had signed an executive order that essentially would’ve permitted the possibility of hit squads. And, I put it out there. Ah, it went absolutely nowhere. Two years later a guy named Sy Hersch of the New Yorker wrote a very famous article about, “Hey, you know what? Bush may have authorized hit squads.” No shit! Told ya that after the attacks! And everybody was like, “Whoa, it must be true.” Now what happened was he signed an order that said, worse comes to worse, you walk into a bar and you see Bin Laden there at the corner of the table playing black jack, knife his ass in the back. That’s what they fuckin’ tell them. Now, that’s a lot different than… Dude walks into the cafe for a cup of tea in Morocco. He’s got a beard and he’s six foot three, so they zero in a satellite and they say, wow, he’s a lot taller than everybody and they nuke the village. It doesn’t happen that way. You know? I mean I have to explain this to people every day that how do they keep missing that. You know? It’s a good question. You guys should be wondering, “Why the fuck do you keep doing that?” Well, there’s a reason. We see him in real time, thirty… from six miles up in a satellite. By the time they launch the satellite from the gulf of Aden twelve hundred miles away, it takes a fuckin’ half an hour to get there. He’s long gone, and you kill a village worth of kids! So, you know, you understand that. But if you don’t explain that to the average person who is just, you know, happy to keep listening, when I can see on TV that we know where he is…

Adam: It’s called moral hazard. I mean, of course, the reasons on the surface are going to be justifiable and common sense, but it leads to this gray for them to exploit.

Cameron: In addition to what I reported, we knew the day after 9/11 that the Russians had warned us. The Russians had warned us of the attacks in September. The French and the British had warned us of hijacking planes. The Israelis and the Germans hadn’t, had warned us of a plane attack on the World Trade Center—all in the preceding eleven months. Now, you know, ninety nine times out of a hundred these warnings mean absolutely nothing. But these were like six, specific, generalized things, and they didn’t check.

Now, I mean, I know you guys have done the research. You know, you have the FBI agent down in Arizona who let out the whole freakin’ warning before it happened.

Adam: Is that O’Neil?

Cameron: Yeah.

They’re learning how to fly, they’re coming down to flight schools in Florida and they’re comin’ out here in their crop dusters and everything else. I mean, it was all there, but we’re a big fuckin’ country—we’re a whole god-damn hemisphere! You know? I mean, it got lost between the cracks. And whether or not that was a deliberate conspiracy, or benign neglect or just rank government incompetence, you know, my feeling is you guys are right to bang the drum because we don’t know. And just as a journalist, I talked to George Bush personally after 9/11. I talked to Harry Reid and John Kerry personally after 9/11. All three of them said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

Anthony: You personally did?

Cameron: Yeah, all three of them. Now, unbelievably enough, only two people in the entire Congress adamantly refused… said that that’s not true. Bob Graham, the former Democratic chairman from Florida of the intelligence committee who said there was no evidence, and Nancy Pelosi. Nanci Pelosi at a dinner one night told me that John Kerry was a fucking liar because he never saw the evidence in the report because she had looked at it. She was actually one of the ranking Democrats on the intelligence committee. Now who could believe Nancy freakin’ Pelosi? She’s from San Francisco, you know, she’s a pacifist. But those other two who said adamantly I’ve looked at every page, all the information and it’s just not there, and she outed Kerry who was running for president at the time. So…

Adam: We’ve actually got a DVD a buddy of mine made—a film called Core of Corruption, a five part film, they’ve released the first part so far. He could write a book on Bob Graham alone but it features Bob Graham in there and the dirt we’ve got on him. But ah, also with regards to whether or not the intelligence muck-up, and you know, incompetence, or whether there might be direct, uh, involvement, something that really bothers us is the Able Danger program and I was wondering you have any thoughts on that.

Cameron: No. I mean, there’s always the concern that you’re going to run into people who are not following real questions. There are questions that have yet to be answered. It doesn’t make sense, that the President of the United States or the Congress of the United States will willfully lie to hurt Americans for the purposes of reelection or economic downturn—that’s a bridge too far. I can understand how people who are informed might be able to make that leap, but it undermines a valid pursuit of facts when you go too far to prove a point. It’s like, I don’t know if you guys have kids or anything, but you see a little kid throw a fucking tantrum in the grocery store because they want a box of milk. They’re not going to get it—they’re going to get locked in the back of the car and slapped. You know, it’s, it’s…

Adam: Well, just like the town hall meetings. We’re always given grief because, you know, they think that we’re the ones that are shouting people down with the health care and we have nothing to do with it.

We’re always the ones coming out patiently trying at a level volume voice, right, asking questions about these issues and you get these morons out there screaming and crying exactly like that—like a child, and we get pushed into that category.

Cameron: Yep. My whole point of view is to point out that there are unanswered questions, and some of it has been answered, but a lot of it hasn’t been.

Anthony: One thing that really scares me about that is say that this happened on purpose, or something like that, that it would be slowly [inaudible] and things like that and not just…

Cameron: Right, I mean, and here’s the other thing that you gotta remember too. Israel has been known as the country that spies on the United States more than any other. Now it’s not, it’s not national security spying, it’s mostly economic. They want to know what to do to make money and how things are going.

[Carl agrees to a photo with a fan…]

Cameron: Frankly, I’ve been disengaged with a handful of time of you guys who sort of come and try to bust me on street corners and stuff like that. The truth is I have not been involved in the national security stuff since, like, after the beginning of the war in 2002.

Adam: Sure. You’ve got a job to do and they’re going to assign you to different things, and… My question is, you know, I don’t want to get you in trouble or anything like that. I you’re willing we’d like to get you just on the record for our web site, would you support a new investigation?

Cameron: Oh, I can’t. There’s no way. I can’t, I mean that’s the kind of thing where if I were to do that, it’s not going to get… it’s such a hassle for not having gone through media relations. It’s not a question of content, um, but every single thing I say has to go though media relations and that’s simply not… I can’t do interviews without… I can’t, I can’t do interviews with like mainstream political magazines until it’s gone through that meat grinder. So…

Anthony: Mainly we saw you and we just wanted to say thanks. You did a good job even though you…

Cameron: Thanks very much—I appreciate it.

Yeah, and I mean seriously, simply you guys help your own cause, and I’m not saying you need to be rude to the people who are on your team, but if they tamp it down a little bit, I mean… I got jumped in downtown New York by a bunch of 9/11 truthers and I talked with them for an hour and it’s still out there on the web and the thing is if we’d had a quiet conversation, they might’ve actually gotten something out of me that would’ve been better than me just telling them, “I’m not going to talk to you.”


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